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Re: Master List ToS

Postby StackOverflow » Tue May 01, 2012 11:00 pm

Would just like to point out that an official ToS will be publicized in regards to server listings. That being said, I'm more than happy to listen to any suggestions that the community may have.

Something people need to understand is that hosting a server and it being listed are two separate things. The "master" server is independently owned and is operated independently as well.

Jest wrote:I'm sorry you feel my servers should not be on the master list, let me explain.
I was the first company to provide free public servers back when there was an extreme shortage of servers per players.
Also they were created for players around the world to compare the gameplay at different locations (they should ping the lowest in their location).
They stay full almost 24/7 so there is obviously some desire for them, and I make no money off of them.
So far everyone who has purchased their own server through JestServers has been extremely satisfied with the performance and support.


Not to make this a "lets rag on JestServers" thread, but this is my own opinion:

From my experience, JestServers are fairly nice in terms of speed/latency. My only concern with them is the lack of in-game administration. I understand the servers serve more as a showcase for potential customers. I personally have no problem with that (at least you aren't limiting each server to 6 players like nitrado). I receive complaints daily about cheaters on JestServers and there is nothing that I can do about it. In fact, the other week I joined a game after receiving a complaint and found that there was an aimbotter who couldn't be kicked due to them having administrative privileges. Still haven't figured that one out.
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Re: Master List ToS

Postby ReubenMcHawk » Tue May 01, 2012 11:02 pm

DeathEnhanced wrote:Your putting your server up on THEIR master list, at THEIR leisure, on their terms, by their rules.

"I fail to see how server admins deciding how their server should be run is any business of the fun police"

They don't care about you RUNNING the server, they just don't want it on THEIR masterlist :>


It's kind of strange though imo, much larger games with a greater fanbase seem to have no problem with people hosting and listing servers that allow hacking there, which makes me wonder why an indie game community would be the one to be upset about it...

But yeah, this is why I agree with your topic. If they have a problem with the way certain servers are run, they should say so somewhere official, rather than just assuming it's an unspoken rule and punishing people as if they should know it.

(Also it would have been nice to have someone ask us to change the server rules rather than just delisting us, but that's just me.)
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Re: Master List ToS

Postby Defaulter » Tue May 01, 2012 11:12 pm

StackOverflow wrote:Would just like to point out that an official ToS will be publicized in regards to server listings. That being said, I'm more than happy to listen to any suggestions that the community may have.
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That is awsume :] ill shall write up a thread right now for official ToS suggestions.
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Re: Master List ToS

Postby StackOverflow » Tue May 01, 2012 11:15 pm

DeathEnhanced wrote:
StackOverflow wrote:Would just like to point out that an official ToS will be publicized in regards to server listings. That being said, I'm more than happy to listen to any suggestions that the community may have.
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That is awsume :] ill shall write up a thread right now for official ToS suggestions.


You could easily just use this thread for suggestions instead of making another one.
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Re: Master List ToS

Postby Defaulter » Tue May 01, 2012 11:20 pm

StackOverflow wrote:
DeathEnhanced wrote:
StackOverflow wrote:Would just like to point out that an official ToS will be publicized in regards to server listings. That being said, I'm more than happy to listen to any suggestions that the community may have.
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That is awsume :] ill shall write up a thread right now for official ToS suggestions.


You could easily just use this thread for suggestions instead of making another one.


Newer thread redacted, needs del'ing.
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Re: Master List ToS suggestions

Postby Jest » Wed May 02, 2012 5:33 am

Hello StackOverflow :)
I'm not sure how it happened either, we have a stock Pyspades April 9th build up for the servers.
I reinstalled them after being contacted by email about it, so hopefully that should be fixed.
I added the aimbot ban script to it but that's it(perhaps it has been updated with 0.75?)
Let me know what I can do and I'll do it.
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Re: Master List ToS suggestions

Postby Defaulter » Wed May 02, 2012 10:40 am

Jest wrote:Hello StackOverflow :)
I'm not sure how it happened either, we have a stock Pyspades April 9th build up for the servers.
I reinstalled them after being contacted by email about it, so hopefully that should be fixed.
I added the aimbot ban script to it but that's it(perhaps it has been updated with 0.75?)
Let me know what I can do and I'll do it.


As much as a i hate to go off topic from the OP. The anti aimbot script does not work, the current aimbot is un-detectable, and require in-games admins to investigate. Now your test servers are supposedly running rampant with hackers, best solution is, get a few in game admins together.

If you don't know anyone in the community, or don't know who you can trust. PM stackoverflow and he can probably help with you with that.
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Re: Master List ToS suggestions

Postby ReubenMcHawk » Wed May 02, 2012 2:09 pm

Jest wrote:Hello StackOverflow :)
I'm not sure how it happened either, we have a stock Pyspades April 9th build up for the servers.
I reinstalled them after being contacted by email about it, so hopefully that should be fixed.
I added the aimbot ban script to it but that's it(perhaps it has been updated with 0.75?)
Let me know what I can do and I'll do it.

Might be a dumb question, but you did remember to change the passwords from "replaceme", right?

And yeah, anti-aimbot script is scheisse now.

Edit: Regarding admins, I'm still open if you want to take me up on my offer, Jest.
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Re: Master List ToS suggestions

Postby HoboHob » Wed May 02, 2012 2:46 pm

I was gonna open a hacker only server :(
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Re: Master List ToS suggestions

Postby ChaosTLW » Wed May 02, 2012 9:33 pm

Hobo, that would really be interesting. 6 aimbots x 6 aimbots lol. Definitively would be worth a video.
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Re: Master List ToS suggestions

Postby ReubenMcHawk » Wed May 02, 2012 10:43 pm

HoboHob wrote:I was gonna open a hacker only server :(

It seemed like a fun idea. :(
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Re: Master List ToS suggestions

Postby Chikenuget » Wed May 02, 2012 11:09 pm

Would there be a rule against putting the address for a "Hacker Server "on the forums?

May be a way to appease both sides though it seems untenable for the time being.
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Re: Master List ToS suggestions

Postby TheGeekZeke101 » Mon May 07, 2012 6:43 pm

Last night something came upon me, regarding the ToS. So, here it is:

Server names. There has been a history of "false" goon haven's, aloha's, and etc, not to mention those servers being taken down. But, is there really anything saying people can't use similar names?

Now, here is where the changes would come in. IF someone pays for their server(s), NO ONE could use specific words and phrases for the server title.

Agreed?
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Re: Master List ToS suggestions

Postby ReubenMcHawk » Tue May 08, 2012 1:02 am

TheGeekZeke101 wrote:Last night something came upon me, regarding the ToS. So, here it is:

Server names. There has been a history of "false" goon haven's, aloha's, and etc, not to mention those servers being taken down. But, is there really anything saying people can't use similar names?

Now, here is where the changes would come in. IF someone pays for their server(s), NO ONE could use specific words and phrases for the server title.

Agreed?

Technically everyone "pays" for a server, be it buying a VPS or with their own bandwidth.
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Re: Master List ToS suggestions

Postby TheGeekZeke101 » Tue May 08, 2012 1:46 am

ReubenMcHawk wrote:
TheGeekZeke101 wrote:Last night something came upon me, regarding the ToS. So, here it is:

Server names. There has been a history of "false" goon haven's, aloha's, and etc, not to mention those servers being taken down. But, is there really anything saying people can't use similar names?

Now, here is where the changes would come in. IF someone pays for their server(s), NO ONE could use specific words and phrases for the server title.

Agreed?

Technically everyone "pays" for a server, be it buying a VPS or with their own bandwidth.


Bleh, then for people who buy a VPS then :P

Also, Reuben brought me to another thought. Server names.

Whats wrong with a server titled with something involving hacking, aimbotting, and or etc? Unless there's something made towards this, this shouldn't be a problem.
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