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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby TheVirgo » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:12 pm

Frostified wrote:
TheVirgo wrote:
THE RIFLE NEVER HAD PINPOINT ACCURACY!!!

I started back in .60


>0.60
Your agrument has been invalid all this time, and you have just made yourself look like a fool.

The rifle accuracy was pin-point up untill 0.52. In 0.52 ben added cone firing to the rifle, this made headshots completly luck based.


*Ahem*. Read the rest of my post.

TheVirgo wrote:So no, it never had pinpoint accuracy ... at least not since .60. Maybe it was different before then, I can't tell you, but not since I started playing.

Now, enough of this 100%, pinpoint accuracy crap.


FrostedRose wrote:Or you are just failing really hard and was never a good player. But yea I think rifle was nerfed a little too.


Trust me, my friend, I was a good player. I used to play on the AoS Fort servers when they were still up (brings a tear to my eye that it's gone) and I was constantly being accused of hacking. Got votekicked from Goon Haven 2 one night (I wasn't even really doing that good on the map. Just a bunch of stupid people.) and I also fought in the CH vs Forum Match and ended up second place, only because another player kept capping the intel.
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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby Frostified » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:16 pm

oh right, sorry then mate.
I miss those servers too :(.
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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby TheVirgo » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:36 pm

Frostified wrote:oh right, sorry then mate.
I miss those servers too :(.


It's cool. :-)
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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby WEEDBOT » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:38 pm

I've noticed a difference too, Virgo. I don't know if it's a decrease in accuracy or just a different spread that we'll have to get used to, though. But I am certainly missing a lot more than I used to. Someone run some tests or something.
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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby AlexKirchu » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:07 am

It's true that the rifle didn't have pinpoint accuracy, at least not in the past few updates, there was some deviation in each shot, but that was manageable. Now it's even worse, if rifle accuracy was 90% before, it's like 80% now at least.
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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby Razor » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:47 am

Just to be frank about this and to the point.
Yes, I have noticed the change, but its not ingame, its server.
Its taking more time to detect and obvious, point blank headshot, and for some reason the accuracy changes are disregarding that time, and only counting movement velocity triggers and all that crasy bloshite, therefor making you "miss" even though you where on the dot. Running players don't seem to get hit at ALL (not because I didn't aim right and try the "aim further then the moving target" trick with multiple praticed shots, its just that the ways the servers are working people are moving either too fast or moving out of the way before the server recognizes it, and when it does it notices a "contradiction" even though there is none (aka, headshot, but the players not there) and tosses that information out the window. I think this is mostly because ben never thought this game would be "laggy" and therefor never needed to worry about such things happening, which I would have agreed with until now. Clearly we need adjustments on how shots are rendered true or not. However, again, this may also be because of aimbotters and be an anti-aimbotter purposeful change making aimbots not work correctly or to throw them off, but hurting the generally laggy 50kbps internet player at the same time. That is honestly my opinion on it and what I believe. As for nerfing rifle blah blah blah. Ben simply said he changed the way the accuracy WORKS, he didn't say lowering or raising it. I believe its not a nerf or a powering, im guessing its just and honest mistake.
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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby Sniper101 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:21 am

Before people were like, 'The rifle is too accurate and powerful, it can be used in close, medium and long ranges. Please change it.'

NOW, people are like,' The SMG is too accurate and powerful, it can be used in close, medium and long ranges. Please change it.'
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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby TheVirgo » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:36 am

Just played on the Minit US server and had absolutely no problem. It was like the good old days! :D Yeah, it must be a PySpades things. :-/
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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby Razor » Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:21 am

Agreed.
Minit US = favvvvaaaooorrtiiieee. <3
Infact, I topped scoreboard most of the time or atleast was top 5.
Its amazing, I love the rifle <333333
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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby TheVirgo » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:50 am

Just played on Minit.

The Rubber-Banding is so bad, I shot a guy three times, in the head, while he was walking STRAIGHT TOWARDS ME and none of the shots registered. He killed me. And while I was typing, an enemy suddenly appeared on the empty field I had been overlooking for the past 2 minutes up and killed me.

It's getting to be ridiculous and it's beyond acceptability, especially when my ping was only averaging 96ms.

Fixing this should really be the main focus on the next update.
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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby zephir » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:50 am

wow, that's pretty bad. I notice the lag sometimes increases then it decreases, and then I'm dropped/disconnected from the server. then I have a hell of a time getting back on, with like 50 server connect errors before one attempt makes it thru (click the link 50 times rapidly) it's really annoying.
my ping is always 33-44ms, on the aloha servers that i play the most.
I'm guessing that's either a server issue or game issue.
ping would spike up beyond 2k in 0.70, but I'd never get dropped/disconnected fro ma server because of it.

anyway, regarding rifle accuracy, this update has the opposite effect. the rifle's near pin-point accurate for me, while in 0.70 it was like using the shotgun at long range. It can fire 20 shots at a guy far away and not a single one of them hit.
Now it's almost pinpoint accurate.

I think the SMG got more accurate firing in short bursts, while the individual round shots got alot less accurate.

previously in 0.70 i avoided the rifle all the time since I couldn't hit anything, but now in 0.75 it's the opposite, it's super accurate and I use it very often.

0.75 is a strange fix.
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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby Paratrooper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:59 am

zephir wrote:anyway, regarding rifle accuracy, this update has the opposite effect. the rifle's near pin-point accurate for me, while in 0.70 it was like using the shotgun at long range. It can fire 20 shots at a guy far away and not a single one of them hit.
Now it's almost pinpoint accurate.


Impossible. It's admin-confirmed that rifles are more inaccurate.
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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby lehma18 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:21 am

I have lost my hope for humanity.

THE RIFLE HASN'T BEEN PINPOINT-ACCURATE SINCE 0.32.

Putin wrote:All you 99.99% accuracy lovers learn something about real weapon's and ballance.
And i really cant listen to you anymore like: cry cry i cant headshot while runing or i want 100% acc back. The rifle is perfectly balanced now i can make 9/10 even 10/10 headshots on mid-long range just learn to shoot u small baby's who cant handle a game gun -_- !!!

And this would really end this horor of 100%acc noobs -->
The rifle is DEFINITELY less accurate right now, and it really can be felt. Honestly, i wish we could just heavily increase the reload time , or add a new gun that is an actual sniper rifle with a nice long reload and horrible accuracy standing,b ut perfect crouched/standing still

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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby Will » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:37 pm

Ive started to miss those 0.1 days it was more about stealth and aim but then we added SMGs that im fine with but then we got the infamous sniper shottys and from there everything goes in different directions this added then dropped now we need this woops thats not a good idea. Long story short can we make things a little simpler i mean honestly were a game with squares we dont need to make to many drastic changes yet.
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Re: Rifle No Longer As Accurate (Plus a Small Rant)

Postby Fluttershy » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:46 pm

Its gotten to the point where everyone on a server I was just on was using smg (bar me). Never thought Id ever utter those words.
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