The legality of MAC spoofing (Split from "Too many aimbots.")

[Build]

MAC spoofing is illegal, and last time I checked those sites that pop-up on googles first page are either viruses or FBI fishing sites. It's called Wire Fraud. If you would like a little article to know what would happen to you if you spoofed a MAC address read here:

http://www.cybercrime.gov/deloreyArrest.pdf

I would really advise against visiting an FBI jail as an inmate.

[Gorman]

MAC spoofing is illegal, and last time I checked those sites that pop-up on googles first page are either viruses or FBI fishing sites. It's called Wire Fraud. If you would like a little article to know what would happen to you if you spoofed a MAC address read here:

http://www.cybercrime.gov/deloreyArrest.pdf

I would really advise against visiting an FBI jail as an inmate.

Uh...

"MATTHEW DELOREY was arrested
today on wire fraud and conspiracy charges relating to his sale of hacked cable modems. The
cable modems had been modified to permit a user to hide his or her identity and steal service
from Internet service providers."

He was not arrested for spoofing his MAC, he was arrested for selling modems specificly configured to use MAC spoofing (among other things) to steal from ISPs. If you want a parallel: torrenting is legal, but using it to break the law is not. Owning a lockpick is legal, but using it to break the law is not. Owning a knife is legal, but you aren't allowed to stab anyone. It's fine to introduce yourself as "Mr Santa Clause" to someone, but don't use it on any official forms.
In short: doing illegal things are illegal, no matter how you go about it. Simply spoofing your MAC to avoid a ban in an online game is not illegal.

Either you intentionally misread your own link or you just posted it because you thought an official looking document would scare me.

[Build]

A cable modem with a "spoofed" MAC address may allow the modem's user to access the Internet using the identity of another modem or a fictitious modem, thus allowing the user to hide his or her
identity from the Internet service provider and obtain Internet access for free. Such a "spoofed"
MAC Address would also allow the user to hide from law enforcement, which could facilitate
criminal conduct.

I'll let that sink in for a minute.

EDIT: Do you even know what Wire Fraud is? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_and_wire_fraud

[Gorman]

A cable modem with a "spoofed" MAC address may allow the modem's user to access the Internet using the identity of another modem or a fictitious modem, thus allowing the user to hide his or her
identity from the Internet service provider and obtain Internet access for free. Such a "spoofed"
MAC Address would also allow the user to hide from law enforcement, which could facilitate
criminal conduct.

I'll let that sink in for a minute.

EDIT: Do you even know what Wire Fraud is? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_and_wire_fraud

A fake moustache also allows me to hide from law enforcement.

Once again, MAC spoofing is not illegal, doing illegal things is illegal, such if you use MAC spoofing to do something illegal (in this case he used it to steal from ISPs), then that is illegal.

As with your link, MAC spoofing does not "intentionally deprive another of property or honest services via mail or wire communication.". Do you know what a MAC address is?

Please stop linking wiki articles if you lack the understanding to read them. Didn't we already tell you that when you claimed running the game at 120 FPS would cause AoS servers to lag? I think we did.

[Build]

Your lack of competence again amazes me.

MAC spoofing does not "intentionally deprive another of honest services via mail or wire communication.

It does: your ISP. How you spoof it is not important. All we'd have to do is contact their ISP and let them know. I've actually done that before with somone like you - it was fun.

In actuality Hacking in itself does the above also.

In our context we have Right to the honest service of playing this game in the way it was ment to be played (without hackers).

If you hack you break the fiduciary duty that comes with downloading the game.

Hell, even if you own a hack and it is in your possession it's conspiracy to break the ficuciary duty that comes with the definition of Honest services.

[Gorman]

Your lack of competence again amazes me.

MAC spoofing does not "intentionally deprive another of honest services via mail or wire communication.

It does: your ISP. How you spoof it is not important. All we'd have to do is contact their ISP and let them know. I've actually done that before with somone like you - it was fun.

In actuality Hacking in itself does the above also.

In our context we have Right to the honest service of playing this game in the way it was ment to be played (without hackers).

If you hack you break the fiduciary duty that comes with downloading the game.

Hell, even if you own a hack and it is in your possession it's conspiracy to break the ficuciary duty that comes with the definition of Honest services.

Not sure if serious?

My ISP tracks usage by my account, not by my MAC. Not sure how your American system where you will apparently be put in prison for wearing a hat works.

You have aright to the honest service of playing this game the way it was meant to be played?

ATTENTION: GRIEFING IS A FEDERAL CRIME IN THE USA.

That is all.

[Tocksman]

This topic is so great. I'm laughing so hard right now...

[USABxBOOYO]

I really can't tell who's wrong and who's right, just that one of them has dug a really deep hole and is going to look like a complete fool when someone resolves this. ;)

[Build]

ATTENTION: GRIEFING IS A FEDERAL CRIME IN THE USA.

It actually would be if it was sited as something you weren't suppose to do in the game. I never actually read a terms of service page. I am however assuming that Mr. Ben the developer would say that you weren't suppose to hack his game.

A Terms of Service page would help clairify this.

[ReubenMcHawk]

ATTENTION: GRIEFING IS A FEDERAL CRIME IN THE USA.

It actually would be if it was sited as something you weren't suppose to do in the game. I never actually read a terms of service page. I am however assuming that Mr. Ben the developer would say that you weren't suppose to hack his game.

A Terms of Service page would help clairify this.

You actually have a point here. Most games I download, I have to agree to a ToS, which says no hacking, etc...

[Build]

^I actually only ever saw the forum ToS. On that note it might be nice to have it linked somewhere.

[WhyDee]

ATTENTION: GRIEFING IS A FEDERAL CRIME IN THE USA.

It actually would be if it was sited as something you weren't suppose to do in the game. I never actually read a terms of service page. I am however assuming that Mr. Ben the developer would say that you weren't suppose to hack his game.

A Terms of Service page would help clairify this.

You actually have a point here. Most games I download, I have to agree to a ToS, which says no hacking, etc...

you actually read them?

[ReubenMcHawk]

It actually would be if it was sited as something you weren't suppose to do in the game. I never actually read a terms of service page. I am however assuming that Mr. Ben the developer would say that you weren't suppose to hack his game.

A Terms of Service page would help clairify this.

You actually have a point here. Most games I download, I have to agree to a ToS, which says no hacking, etc...

you actually read them?

God no, lol. I do remember seeing the one for Soldat saying something like "Don't hack this indie game, go hack an EA game" or something like that, which was pretty lulzy.

[Gorman]

Semi delay is .5 right? So up to 8 is possible in 4 seconds.

ATTENTION: GRIEFING IS A FEDERAL CRIME IN THE USA.

It actually would be if it was sited as something you weren't suppose to do in the game. I never actually read a terms of service page. I am however assuming that Mr. Ben the developer would say that you weren't suppose to hack his game.

A Terms of Service page would help clairify this.

Nice job Build, using your own imagination as evidence to support your opinion!

[mikuli]

Changing the MAC address of your cable modem is a bit dubious, but I do believe we're mostly referring to spoofing your NIC's MAC. If this was in some way illegal, we'd also be legally forbidden from buying new cards and pancakes them in - you know, each NIC has it's own MAC. The authorities are not writing your records up to connect you to the MAC address of your NIC when you buy a new one. A new NIC MAC will probably just trigger your ISP's DHCP and issue you a new IP, if your router is bridged instead of NATting.


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