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Re: So many cheaters !

Postby kmaj » Fri May 11, 2012 9:50 pm

DoomSplitter wrote:
Gorman wrote:If you hack better than they do it's not a problem.

You should think of it as a second game, a fight to be the best hacker. Do you complain when someone shoots better than you? Nope, just get good scrub, same thing here.

I find it ironic that your sig states that greifing is illegal, yet you seem to promote actions (like hacking) that cheapen the game.

IMHO griefers are worse than hackers.
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Re: So many cheaters !

Postby HoboHob » Fri May 11, 2012 11:08 pm

kmaj wrote:
DoomSplitter wrote:
Gorman wrote:If you hack better than they do it's not a problem.

You should think of it as a second game, a fight to be the best hacker. Do you complain when someone shoots better than you? Nope, just get good scrub, same thing here.

I find it ironic that your sig states that greifing is illegal, yet you seem to promote actions (like hacking) that cheapen the game.

IMHO griefers are worse than hackers.

True true.

You can atleast kills hackers if you are smart.
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Re: So many cheaters !

Postby ThisFrickinSite » Sat May 12, 2012 1:20 am

HoboHob wrote:
You can atleast kills hackers if you are smart.

you can kill griefers too, if they are breaking team placed blocks, you shoot them in the head and they die.
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Re: So many cheaters !

Postby Gorman » Sat May 12, 2012 6:32 am

MrMeow wrote:And get perma'd.

If you think you'd get perma'd from hacking, then just wait for the hackers to get perma'd.
DoomSplitter wrote:I find it ironic that your sig states that greifing is illegal, yet you seem to promote actions (like hacking) that cheapen the game.

Well let me tell you about the history of this signature. One guy was telling me how any action that "does not play the game as it was indented to be played" breaks the computer misuse act, and thus is illegal. I replied asking him if he is seriously saying that griefing is a federal crime in the US. He said he was serious.
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Re: So many cheaters !

Postby DoomSplitter » Sat May 12, 2012 12:37 pm

Gorman wrote:Well let me tell you about the history of this signature. One guy was telling me how any action that "does not play the game as it was indented to be played" breaks the computer misuse act, and thus is illegal. I replied asking him if he is seriously saying that griefing is a federal crime in the US. He said he was serious.

So it's sarcasm? Okay then. Sorry for calling you out, I hope you won't take it personal.
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Re: So many cheaters !

Postby Doctor » Sat May 12, 2012 4:52 pm

Stay in topic.
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Re: So many cheaters !

Postby SuckMyVox » Sun May 13, 2012 10:27 am

Does this game even have ANY anti-hack at all implemented?
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Re: So many cheaters !

Postby Gorman » Sun May 13, 2012 10:36 am

SuckMyVox wrote:Does this game even have ANY anti-hack at all implemented?

Yes.

I kind of wanted to leave it at that since you were too goddamn lazy to check yourself, but whatever;
- Movement packets are verified to check that the client is not moving further than is possible
- Hit packets are checked to make sure there was line of sight between target and shooter
- Weapon damage and bullet count, clip size, etc, are verified to prevent unlimited ammo
- No cap on vertical velocity from gravitational acceleration prevents flying

Just a few off the top of my head. Plus there is aimbot.py etc.
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Re: So many cheaters !

Postby SuckMyVox » Sun May 13, 2012 7:44 pm

Gorman wrote:
SuckMyVox wrote:Does this game even have ANY anti-hack at all implemented?

Yes.

I kind of wanted to leave it at that since you were too goddamn lazy to check yourself, but whatever;
- Movement packets are verified to check that the client is not moving further than is possible
- Hit packets are checked to make sure there was line of sight between target and shooter
- Weapon damage and bullet count, clip size, etc, are verified to prevent unlimited ammo
- No cap on vertical velocity from gravitational acceleration prevents flying

Just a few off the top of my head. Plus there is aimbot.py etc.


When you search "antihack" on the forum literally only one suggestion thread pops up and the thread is kinda vague and talks about "not implementing antihack" which is why I ask.

Hit packet checking is only rudimentary though. It's not gonna prevent an aimbot from working.
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Re: So many cheaters !

Postby Varun » Mon May 14, 2012 11:16 am

While hackers do piss me off, they usually don't have skills worth a damn, so usually the scores between me and hackers is about the same. Griefers piss me off because........ well.......... you all know why, do I have to justify? Really, hackers don't get much satisfaction from playing, so they usually don't stay for long. Other than that, do your best to kill them.
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