Why is the shotgun so underrated?

[Paratrooper]

I believe the old shotgun was better... At least I didn't really have the .70 shotgun since I actually embraced it, along with the SMG.

I'm probably the opposite, I just love shotguns in games.

[Tek2]

Shotgun isn't underrated, it's just that bad.

[TBS]

because if you're in a short range battle, and barely miss an smger. he'll kill you in under 0.5 seconds. There needs to be more bullet spread, and higher damage. And it must go faster.

Also, it only works in certain situations. I often find myself having to sneak up to an enemy just because only the head is showing. If I used the rifle I'd just simply kill the guy.

And sneaking can sometimes be hard, because the game has so clean graphics. It's not ilke in battlefield 3 where there is tons of particles, bushes etc...

[tunaspirit]

There are not enough CQB maps out there being run on servers.
Just like the indianajones map (or something) is being called a shotgun spam map
It's just pointless these days to try killing people with a shotgun in maps like pinpoint.

[Danqazmlp]

I'm not a fan of the low ROF.

[Frostified]

It is completely random. Sometimes it will take 3 shots to kill a guy from 10 blocks, and sometimes it takes only 1 shot to kill someone 50 blocks away.

>On A server
>Decide to use shotgun
>On green, standing two blocks away from a blue, takes three shots to kill him with a shotgun and I escape with 5hp left
>Eventually die, then I respawn
>Sees a shotgunner blue about 20 blocks away
>He gets a one hit shotgun kill on me

wtf!?

[Jokson]

It's the randomness. It's totally unreliable, which means that it's a poor choice for pretty much any situation.

In close range, the SMG will make short work of you due to its high rate of fire and relatively low range. If you get one blast off, you might not kill due to the spread of pellets, and the long time between bullets means that you're going to die by the time you get to shoot again.

At a distance, the shotgun is nearly worthless (despite being potentially able to get an across-the-battlefield kill) due to its completely random and fairly extreme spread.

Against a covered target at any range, the SMG is superior since it tears up cover much faster. Against an uncovered target, the rifle is superior due to its reliable headshotting abilities.

The shotgun fills no role well, and isn't even good at all the roles. In any situation, any other weapon would have been more suitable.

[Varun]

It's the randomness. It's totally unreliable, which means that it's a poor choice for pretty much any situation.

In close range, the SMG will make short work of you due to its high rate of fire and relatively low range. If you get one blast off, you might not kill due to the spread of pellets, and the long time between bullets means that you're going to die by the time you get to shoot again.

At a distance, the shotgun is nearly worthless (despite being potentially able to get an across-the-battlefield kill) due to its completely random and fairly extreme spread.

Against a covered target at any range, the SMG is superior since it tears up cover much faster. Against an uncovered target, the rifle is superior due to its reliable headshotting abilities.

The shotgun fills no role well, and isn't even good at all the roles. In any situation, any other weapon would have been more suitable.

+1
The shotgun is rendered obsolete by the abilities of the others. Most maps are open maps, and a rifleman can just laugh at the shotgun noob pumping away at an impossible distance, then snipe him with ease. The smg is reliable for mid - long distance, with the 0.75 update, and rarely do fights get so close as to make the shotgun useful.

[TheOperator]

I don't know, I for one think it works well in close quarters (just like a shotgun should). Sometimes I wonder if people are confusing shotguns for long-ranged weapons.

I'm sorry, but REAL shotguns are effective up to AT LEAST 35 meters (unless it barrel has been sawed down to 3 inches)

The shotgun behaved PERFECTLY when it was first introduced, even in .70 it handled well. Then ben decided videogame logic is best logic and made it so shotgun only hits things 5 feet away from you, which is especially bad because unlike CoD most of the combat happens at ranges or around 90 yards.

[xDaRxMONSTER]

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I think in 0.70 the SHotGun was over powerd but now in 0.75 it is just a useless pieace of garbage

[Catzilla]

Because most maps are large and wide making a lot of people use rifle/smg which makes the shotgun not very effective. As far as I know, you can play a lot of CQC maps in Aloha Last Team Standing where you can use shotgun and get a decent ratio. Oh and if I recall correctly, you can use the shotgun as if it was a rifle in the older versions.

[TheOperator]

Because most maps are large and wide making a lot of people use rifle/smg which makes the shotgun not very effective. As far as I know, you can play a lot of CQC maps in Aloha Last Team Standing where you can use shotgun and get a decent ratio. Oh and if I recall correctly, you can use the shotgun as if it was a rifle in the older versions.

Thats because you could kill people in 3-4 shots at long range, and I guess the people who claimed you could "snipe" with it were terribad players who think 3-4 shots is "sniping" sn take that many or more shots with the older rifle to kill somebody. (granted, its more common to take 3-4 shots to kill people at long range, but only because ben F***ED up the accuracy)

[ChaosTLW]

I don't know, I for one think it works well in close quarters (just like a shotgun should). Sometimes I wonder if people are confusing shotguns for long-ranged weapons.

I'm sorry, but REAL shotguns are effective up to AT LEAST 35 meters (unless it barrel has been sawed down to 3 inches)

The shotgun behaved PERFECTLY when it was first introduced, even in .70 it handled well. Then ben decided videogame logic is best logic and made it so shotgun only hits things 5 feet away from you, which is especially bad because unlike CoD most of the combat happens at ranges or around 90 yards.

Some shotguns can hit targets at up to 60 meters, and up to 100 meters with some special ammo.

[Jokson]

I don't know, I for one think it works well in close quarters (just like a shotgun should). Sometimes I wonder if people are confusing shotguns for long-ranged weapons.

I'm sorry, but REAL shotguns are effective up to AT LEAST 35 meters (unless it barrel has been sawed down to 3 inches)

Some shotguns can hit targets at up to 60 meters, and up to 100 meters with some special ammo.

In real life, military shotguns are considered effective up to 70m, which if you're not real sure how far that is, it's 3/4 of an American football field. That's 70 blocks, in game terms. Seriously. Furthermore, the spread is maybe the size of your fist over its effective distance. Any more spread than that, and the weapon would be useless.

I accept that ranges are drastically shortened and that's fine- I don't really want to be sniped from my base when the camper is sitting at his base. But something has to be done. The shotgun should be good at something and as it stands, it really isn't.

[Fluttershy]

In real life, military shotguns are considered effective up to 70m, which if you're not real sure how far that is, it's 3/4 of an American football field. That's 70 blocks, in game terms.

Id just like to point out a block doesnt equal a meter, unless our players are ~8 feet tall. So itd actually be less.